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Title: Holiday entitlement
Description: paid days off in your 1st year?


buzzy--bee - June 20, 2006 07:34 PM (GMT)
Can anyone confirm -

Do you get any paid days off at all in a new job in Oz in your first year?

There seems to be a suggestion that you have to work in a job for a whole year with no paid time off, then that earns you 20 days for the next year.

Can anyone confirm or deny this?

Thanks

Buzzy

ProofReader - June 20, 2006 07:48 PM (GMT)

Generally speaking, you can take holidays on a pro-rata basis as you earn the time. So, once you've worked for 3 months, you'd be entitled to a week's paid holiday; after 6 months, you'd get 2 weeks, etc.



buzzy--bee - June 20, 2006 07:49 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ProofReader @ 21st June, 2006 - 05:48am)

Generally speaking, you can take holidays on a pro-rata basis as you earn the time. So, once you've worked for 3 months, you'd be entitled to a week's paid holiday; after 6 months, you'd get 2 weeks, etc.



That sounds better!!!

Thanks for that.

Buzzy

ProofReader - June 20, 2006 07:51 PM (GMT)

Planning your holidays before you get there then?! :grin:

:hammock: :bbq:



buzzy--bee - June 20, 2006 07:56 PM (GMT)
QUOTE (ProofReader @ 21st June, 2006 - 05:51am)

Planning your holidays before you get there then?! :grin:

:hammock: :bbq:



Of course!

But seriously, that would have been a major road-hump for me as I don't want to spend a year having far less time with my family than I get here, regardless of all the other benefits that the move may or may not bring.....

Looks like from the time of year we are arriving the first holiday may well be some skiing anyway!

Thanks again

Buzzy

Hevs - June 21, 2006 10:39 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (ProofReader @ 21st June, 2006 - 05:51am)

Planning your holidays before you get there then?! :grin:

:hammock: :bbq:



Seems he'll fit right in here then :lol:

downunderpom - June 27, 2006 04:37 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (buzzy--bee @ 21st June, 2006 - 08:34am)
Can anyone confirm -

Do you get any paid days off at all in a new job in Oz in your first year?

There seems to be a suggestion that you have to work in a job for a whole year with no paid time off, then that earns you 20 days for the next year.

Can anyone confirm or deny this?

Thanks

Buzzy

I think you're having your leg pulled - they'll be sending you off for tartan paint, next! :lol:

buzzy--bee - June 27, 2006 04:51 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (downunderpom @ 27th June, 2006 - 02:37pm)
QUOTE (buzzy--bee @ 21st June, 2006 - 08:34am)
Can anyone confirm -

Do you get any paid days off at all in a new job in Oz in your first year?

There seems to be a suggestion that you have to work in a job for a whole year with no paid time off, then that earns you 20 days for the next year.

Can anyone confirm or deny this?

Thanks

Buzzy

I think you're having your leg pulled - they'll be sending you off for tartan paint, next! :lol:

If only!

In New Zealand you have to work 12 months before you get any holiday and it seems from some threads on forums I've read this is starting to creep in in Oz too...

:beercheers:

Buzzy

ABCDiamond - June 27, 2006 07:11 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (buzzy--bee @ 27th June, 2006 - 02:51pm)
If only!

In New Zealand you have to work 12 months before you get any holiday and it seems from some threads on forums I've read this is starting to creep in in Oz too...

:beercheers:

Buzzy

It may not be enforced in that way, as I feel that the majority of employers work on the accrual/pro rata system, the same as the system that the UK officially implemented on 25 October 2001. (although like Australia, here employers have been using it for a long time)

Probably the same as this rule :
Q. Can holiday entitlement include bank holidays or do you have to give these in addition?

A: Holiday entitlement can include bank holidays. Therefore if an employee who works 5 days per week has 8 bank holidays off (and is paid for them) and has a further 12 days, this will equal the minimum entitlement of 20 days (4 weeks).

But I don't think its enforced by employers.


The actual NZ government rules state:
QUOTE
Employees can ask to take paid annual holidays in advance of becoming entitled to them – either because they have not completed 12 months of service, or because they have used all of their entitlement. In these circumstances, approval is at the discretion of the employer, unless a right to take annual holidays in advance is included in the relevant employment agreement.
When an employer approves annual holidays in advance, the employee should be asked to agree in writing that the employer be able to reduce any final pay to recover from the employee the amount of any overpayment of holiday pay that might result from taking annual holidays in advance

downunderpom - June 28, 2006 02:47 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (buzzy--bee @ 27th June, 2006 - 05:51pm)
If only!

In New Zealand you have to work 12 months before you get any holiday and it seems from some threads on forums I've read this is starting to creep in in Oz too...

:beercheers:

Buzzy

I don't have that problem..... :blink:

I've recently started working in NZ and have already got several days of holiday racked up.

That's more 'tartan paint', I reckon! :D

Bridiej - June 28, 2006 04:02 AM (GMT)
I worked for a company in the UK once where you had to work a full year to get any holiday, nightmare! And of course they didnt pay you for the year you still had when you left..!

Anyway, where Malc works he earns as he goes each week, but his boss said he doesnt mind seeing his holiday in a negative figure, otherwise he'd never have any real time off other than a day or so.

Also he gets public holidays as additional holiday, so he can choose to either take the public holiday or have the day another time, which is much better. :)

ABCDiamond - June 28, 2006 04:27 AM (GMT)
It's the extra rostered days off that we like here, my wife seems to get an extra day off just about every month.

And then there will be the long service leave,
QUOTE
As from 3 June 2001 the entitlement to long service leave is 8.6667 weeks on full pay after each period of 10 years continuous service.
That works out an an extra 4 days per year :)
That's for QLD. Not sure if it's the same amount in each State .





TopCat3 - July 2, 2006 09:14 AM (GMT)
For the O.P. - just be aware that some of your annual leave might be required to be taken during the long summer break over the Christmas/New Year shutdown and that can suck as much as 7-10 days of your annual entitlement. Others might just give those odd days between Boxing Day and 2nd Jan as "extra" to whatever your annual entitlement is.

Also, 45% of the workforce is now casualised so be careful about your employment basis. Casuals and contract workers don't get any holidays or sick pay.


ABCDiamond - July 2, 2006 09:40 AM (GMT)
QUOTE (TopCat3 @ 2nd July, 2006 - 07:14pm)
Casuals and contract workers don't get any holidays or sick pay.

For Casual employee conditions, including holidays and sick pay considerations, have a look at: http://z3.invisionfree.com/ABCDiamond/inde...?showtopic=1621





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